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User blog comment:Toughpigs/WikiStickies - new feature launching on My Home/Brandon Rhea-20091209224120

2009-12-09T22:41:20Z

New page: 888th Avatar - exactly. It either needs to be customized like you said or just completely optional.

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888th Avatar - exactly. It either needs to be customized like you said or just completely optional.

User:KoLd

2009-12-09T22:36:30Z

Removing all content from page

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-	== <b>Lista de Pokémons AQUÁTICOS </b> ==<br>
-	<b>Vantagens:</b> Terra, Pedra, Fogo<br>
-	<b>Desvantagens:</b> Elétrico, Planta, Dragão

User blog comment:Toughpigs/WikiStickies - new feature launching on My Home/The 888th Avatar-20091209222916

2009-12-09T22:29:16Z

New page: Brandon: At the moment, they seem to be non-customisable. They just draw pages from the types listed here, and display them on MyHome. While the concept of the feature is great, I don't …

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Brandon: At the moment, they seem to be non-customisable. They just draw pages from the types listed here, and display them on MyHome.

While the concept of the feature is great, I don't think the feature does the concept justice at the moment. It ''needs'' to be customisable for wikis like Star Wars Fanon for example to use it to its potential.

Wikia:International/Wikianswers category hubs

2009-12-09T22:26:25Z

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	* [[w:c:messaging:mediawiki:cathub-edit-success]]		* [[w:c:messaging:mediawiki:cathub-edit-success]]
	*:Your answer has been saved		*:Your answer has been saved
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		+	Messages from the community widget are also used, such as [[MediaWiki:Widget-community-secondsago]].

	==== Status ====		==== Status ====

User:KoLd

2009-12-09T22:24:36Z

Replaced content with '== Lista de Pokémons AQUÁTICOS == Vantagens: Terra, Pedra, Fogo Desvantagens: Elétrico, Planta, Dragão'

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-	== Lista de Pokémons AQUÁTICOS ==	+	== <b>Lista de Pokémons AQUÁTICOS </b> ==<br>
-	Vantagens: Terra, Pedra, Fogo	+	<b>Vantagens:</b> Terra, Pedra, Fogo<br>
-	Desvantagens: Elétrico, Planta, Dragão	+	<b>Desvantagens:</b> Elétrico, Planta, Dragão
-	<table>
-	<tr>
-	<td><b>Nome</b></td> <td><b>Imagem</b></td> <td><b>Experiência</b></td> <td><b>Evolução</b></td>
-	</tr>
-	<tr>
-	Squirtle
-	Wartortle
-	Blastoise
-	Psyduck
-	Golduck
-	Poliwag
-	PoliwhirlP
-	oliwrath
-	Tentacool
-	Tentacruel
-	Slowpoke
-	Slowbro
-	Seel
-	Dewgong
-	Shellder
-	Cloyster
-	Krabby
-	Kingler
-	HorseaSeadra
-	Goldeen
-	Seaking
-	Staryu
-	Starmie
-	Magikarp
-	Gyarados
-	Lapras
-	Vaporeon
-	Omanyte
-	Omastar
-	Kabuto
-	Kabutops
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-	<td>Ekans</td><td>Ekan.gif</td> <td>200</td> <td>Arbok</td>
-	</tr>
-	</table>

User:FS1P

2009-12-09T22:23:05Z

New user account

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User:Animaru

2009-12-09T22:21:13Z

New user account

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User blog comment:Toughpigs/WikiStickies - new feature launching on My Home/Devilmanozzy-20091209221349

2009-12-09T22:13:49Z

New page: My main issue is I wish there can be a list of new articles to suggest as some wikis go thru new articles quick.

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My main issue is I wish there can be a list of new articles to suggest as some wikis go thru new articles quick.

Wikia:Licensing/nl

2009-12-09T22:10:48Z

deleted "[[Wikia:Licensing/nl]]" Author request: content was: '<div style="float:right; font-size:90%;"> __TOC__ ''Inofficiële vertalingen::'' Deutsch (German) w:c:es:Wikia:Lic…' (and the only contributor was '[[Special:Contributions/Ted

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User blog comment:Toughpigs/WikiStickies - new feature launching on My Home/Brandon Rhea-20091209220316

2009-12-09T22:03:17Z

New page: Wait, I may be misunderstanding this. Do users create these and SEEK help, or is this tied into wanted pages, short pages, etc special pages?

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Wait, I may be misunderstanding this. Do users create these and SEEK help, or is this tied into wanted pages, short pages, etc special pages?

Tdicamps.wikia.com

2009-12-09T21:54:56Z

Www.tacamps.wikia.com

2009-12-09T21:54:51Z

Www.tacamps.wikia.com

2009-12-09T21:54:37Z

Forum:The future of Central

2009-12-09T21:53:26Z

format

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-	==== Assumptions ====	+	;Assumptions
	* central = '''[[w:c:central]]'''		* central = '''[[w:c:central]]'''
	* blue box pages = pages like [[Sailing]], [[Recipes]], [[Code]], etc.		* blue box pages = pages like [[Sailing]], [[Recipes]], [[Code]], etc.

Tdicamps.wikia.com

2009-12-09T21:53:05Z

New page: Join http://www.tdicamps.wikia.com

Www.tacamps.wikia.com

2009-12-09T21:52:32Z

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Forum:The future of Central

2009-12-09T21:52:31Z

follow up

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-	== najevi's vision for Central ==	+	;najevi's vision for Central

	See [[User_blog:Najevi/A_vision_for_w:c:central]]		See [[User_blog:Najevi/A_vision_for_w:c:central]]
		+
		+	<blockquote>
		+	==== Assumptions ====
		+	* central = '''[[w:c:central]]'''
		+	* blue box pages = pages like [[Sailing]], [[Recipes]], [[Code]], etc.
		+	* tidy up = staff and/or users liberally using {{t\|delete}} and then waiting maybe 15-30 days (for any discussion/objection) before pages are actually deleted
		+	* Wikia-wide search = '''[[w:c:central:Special:Search]]'''
		+	* Wiki-wide search = '''w:c:<domain>:Special:Search'''
		+	</blockquote>
		+
		+	-- najevi 21:52, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

	:A bit big for this page Najevi, let's give others room to comment too! :) But we will read it all -- [[User:Sannse\|sannse]]<staff /> ([[User talk:sannse\|talk]]) 20:57, December 9, 2009 (UTC)		:A bit big for this page Najevi, let's give others room to comment too! :) But we will read it all -- [[User:Sannse\|sannse]]<staff /> ([[User talk:sannse\|talk]]) 20:57, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
		+
		+	:: Fair enough. However, the above assumptions are important to be verified (''or corrected'') at this forum thread. -- najevi 21:52, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

User blog comment:Toughpigs/WikiStickies - new feature launching on My Home/Brandon Rhea-20091209215203

2009-12-09T21:52:03Z

New page: Can this be optional? The three current stickies simply don't fit certain wikis. On Star Wars Fanon, for example, you can't just create a wanted page because it may be part of someone's se…

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Can this be optional? The three current stickies simply don't fit certain wikis. On Star Wars Fanon, for example, you can't just create a wanted page because it may be part of someone's series, you can't just add an image, and you can't just expand an article unless it's specifically marked as free-add. This is counter-productive to in-house policies and will cause confusion.

Forum:Using includeonly and noinclude code

2009-12-09T21:51:55Z

New page: {{Forumheader|Help desk}} <!-- Please put your content under this line. Be sure to sign your edits with four tildes: ~~~~ If you require staff help, please use Special:Contact or co…

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{{Forumheader|Help desk}}


hi again ^_^;;

I am working on creating [[w:c:Gaia:Category:Templates|Notice templates]] for the [[w:c:Gaia:Gaiapedia|Gaiapedia]]. I am getting to the point where I have to link one notice template to multiple categories when a notice template is used.

I ran into a problem with one of the stubs. [[w:c:Gaia:Template:Stub/Bio|Biography stub]], when testing it out on a page (sandbox for example), I noticed that the <code>"includeonly"</code> will stick out when it is being used. But the linking to the categories is fine. So I am trying to figure out how to wrap the code up so things don't stick out like that. [[User:Bunai82|Bunai82]] 21:51, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

User:TDALindsayfan1

2009-12-09T21:51:38Z

New page: Join www.tacamps.wikia.com and tdicamps.wikia.com

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Join [[www.tacamps.wikia.com]]
and [[tdicamps.wikia.com]]

User:Jhourcle

2009-12-09T21:50:42Z

New user account

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User:Lebanonwebdesign

2009-12-09T21:49:30Z

New user account

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User blog:Najevi/A vision for w:c:central

2009-12-09T21:44:12Z

section added

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	# [[w:c:central:forum]] posts ought to be subject to the use of {{t\|delete}} by regular users and then Wikia staff charged with purging only if and when appropriate		# [[w:c:central:forum]] posts ought to be subject to the use of {{t\|delete}} by regular users and then Wikia staff charged with purging only if and when appropriate
	#* see also [[#SMW is a your friend]]		#* see also [[#SMW is a your friend]]
		+	# A user ought to be able specify the preferred page they arrive at when central.wikia.com (or indeed <domain>.wikia.com) is entered in to the browser address box
		+	#* see also [[#My landing zone]]
	</div>		</div>

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	If you have even the slightest inkling as to what the semantic web has to offer in our future then you'll certainly want Wikia to be on the bleeding edge of that movement.		If you have even the slightest inkling as to what the semantic web has to offer in our future then you'll certainly want Wikia to be on the bleeding edge of that movement.
		+
		+
		+	=== My landing zone ===
		+	Now that MyHome has opened pandora's box to the possibility of alternate redirection away from [[Project:Main_Page]] whenever '''<domain>.wikia.com''' is entered at the browser address input box, this rather begs the question: Why not provide more than two choices? Indeed why not provide a user_blog page at each wiki (or a global one at w:c:central:user_blog: where a user can specify their preferred "landing zone" Wikia-wide and if they wish to override their global default then they create a similar named w:c:<domain>:user_blog: page at specific wiki communities.
		+
		+	Here at '''central.wikia.com''' fair candidates (in no particular order) for a landing zone are: (see also [[User blog:Najevi/My wish list for the Wikia "My Home" feature]]
		+	# [[Main_Page]]
		+	# [[Special:MyHome]]
		+	# [[Special:RecentChanges]]
		+	# [[Special:MyPage]]
		+	# [[Special:Mytalk]]
		+	# [[Special:WidgetDashboard]] (see also [[User_blog:Najevi/A_WidgetDashboard_approach_to_a_truly_custom_MyHome_page]] ''this is '''way cool!''''')
		+	# [[Forum:Index]]
		+	# [[Blog:Wikia_Staff_Blog]]
		+	# [[Special:RecentChanges]]
		+

	=== Summary ===		=== Summary ===
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	A decreasing volume (''normalized to the population of course'') of '''Special:Contact''' usage should be one of the metrics of a success.		A decreasing volume (''normalized to the population of course'') of '''Special:Contact''' usage should be one of the metrics of a success.
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-	[[Category:Blog posts]]

Wikia:International/Wikianswers category hubs

2009-12-09T21:32:15Z

this was meant for a different product

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	Category pages at [[Wikianswers:Wikianswers\|Wikianswers]].		Category pages at [[Wikianswers:Wikianswers\|Wikianswers]].

User:Aequilibriox

2009-12-09T21:30:20Z

New user account

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The Chronicles of Champpong 'n' Blackfurry

2009-12-09T21:21:31Z

Replaced content with 'The new official wiki website for The Chronicles of Champpong 'n' Blackfurry has been moved. To view the new wiki [http://ajshimxcomics.wikia.com/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Cha…'

User:O.C.I (Round 3)

2009-12-09T21:10:09Z

New user account

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User:JackNapierX

2009-12-09T20:59:13Z

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Forum:The future of Central

2009-12-09T20:57:36Z

remove transclusion

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	== najevi's vision for Central ==		== najevi's vision for Central ==
-	<blockquote>	+
-	(transcluded from [[User_blog:Najevi/A_vision_for_w:c:central]])	+	See [[User_blog:Najevi/A_vision_for_w:c:central]]
-	</blockquote>	+
-	{{User_blog:Najevi/A_vision_for_w:c:central}}	+	:A bit big for this page Najevi, let's give others room to comment too! :) But we will read it all -- [[User:Sannse\|sannse]]<staff /> ([[User talk:sannse\|talk]]) 20:57, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
-	<br/>-- najevi 20:23, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

User:KoLd

2009-12-09T20:47:45Z

New page: == Lista de Pokémons AQUÁTICOS == Vantagens: Terra, Pedra, Fogo Desvantagens: Elétrico, Planta, Dragão <table> <tr> <td>Nome</td> <td>Imagem</td> <td>Experiência</b…

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== Lista de Pokémons AQUÁTICOS ==
Vantagens: Terra, Pedra, Fogo
Desvantagens: Elétrico, Planta, Dragão
<table>
<tr>
<td>Nome</td> <td>Imagem</td> <td>Experiência</td> <td>Evolução</td>
</tr>
<tr>
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Psyduck
Golduck
Poliwag
PoliwhirlP
oliwrath
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Slowpoke
Slowbro
Seel
Dewgong
Shellder
Cloyster
Krabby
Kingler
HorseaSeadra
Goldeen
Seaking
Staryu
Starmie
Magikarp
Gyarados
Lapras
Vaporeon
Omanyte
Omastar
Kabuto
Kabutops

<td>Ekans</td><td>Ekan.gif</td> <td>200</td> <td>Arbok</td>
</tr>
</table>

User:TheAverageInvestor

2009-12-09T20:46:00Z

New user account

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User:LcawteBot/Status Types

2009-12-09T20:41:35Z

starter

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These are types of Status's that will be listed on Lcawte's Bot Pages.
==Types==
*''Offline'' - Not marked as bot and completly unused on wiki.

User:Hino Kikira

2009-12-09T20:38:32Z

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User blog comment:Toughpigs/WikiStickies - new feature launching on My Home/Bunai82-20091209203717

2009-12-09T20:37:17Z

New page: Not sure about this. This feature is alerting people to things that have been deleted, and are not wanted. Is there an off option.

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Not sure about this.
This feature is alerting people to things that have been deleted, and are not wanted. Is there an off option.

User:Najevi/sandbox

2009-12-09T20:30:29Z

najevi's vision for w:c:central: moved to blog

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	[[File:Check_existence_of_source_page_before_rendering_wikipage_widget_-_EXISTS.jpg\|100x100px\|DemoWidget EXISTS]]		[[File:Check_existence_of_source_page_before_rendering_wikipage_widget_-_EXISTS.jpg\|100x100px\|DemoWidget EXISTS]]
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-	== najevi's vision for w:c:central ==
-	The new [[w:c:central:Special:Search\|Wikia-wide search capability]] is absolutely awesome. ''Many thanks!''
-	*There's a good chance I haven't fully explored it's capabilities yet and therefore some of these suggestions may already be enabled because of this new feature.''
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-	My personal bias is to use '''w:c:central''' as a '''body of knowledge''' however I can also appreciate that it has appeal for some users as a sort of cyber-supermarket - i.e. where one can browse up and down the aisles to get a feel for the variety of communities that have been created at Wikia.
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-	;Assumptions:
-	* central = '''[[w:c:central]]'''
-	* blue box pages = pages like [[Sailing]], [[Recipes]], [[Code]], etc.
-	* tidy up = staff and/or users liberally using {{t\|delete}} and then waiting maybe 15-30 days (for any discussion/objection) before pages are actually deleted
-	* Wikia-wide search = '''[[w:c:central:Special:Search]]'''
-	* Wiki-wide search = '''w:c:<domain>:Special:Search'''
-
-	;Key points (in no particular order):
-	# '''w:c:central''' and [[w:c:help]] could safely merge and become the one wiki that represents the global '''body of knowledge'''
-	#* see also [[#Alternatives to merging w:c::help with w:c:central]]
-	# '''[[Special:Contact]]''' (''i.e. highly responsive email based 1:1 support'') needs a counterpart that is wiki page based but is just as highly responsive
-	# '''Special:Contact''' support Q&A dialog that may benefit other users ought to be tagged as such and put within reach of '''w:c:central:Special:Search'''
-	#* see also [[#Permit 1on1 support dialog to be made public]]
-	# blue box pages - why not empower users who create (or have created) a wiki to add a blue box at an appropriate page for them self
-	#* see also [[#Blue box pages and w:c:central:Special:Search can coexist]]
-	# w:c:central pages ought to serve as a repository for WikiPage widget definitions (a.k.a. Source pages) that can be used from any Wikia community
-	#* see also [[User:Najevi/Contact_Wikia#WikiPage_widget_source_page_parameter_DOES_NOT_recognize_an_interwiki_link]]
-	# gadgets defined at any Wikia community ought to be visible at [[w:c:central:Special:Gadgets]] (''or similar repository'') i.e. source pages remain at whatever Wikia community but a documentation page that demonstrates/illustrates that gadget in action ought to be browse-able/search-able at w:c:central
-	# The comment blocks (''but probably <u>not</u> the actual code'') of user developed JavaScript and CSS from any community ought to be within reach of a '''w:c:central:Special:Search'''
-	# [[w:c:central:user_blog]] pages ought to be able to be deleted by the user who creates the blog (i.e. no sysop assistance required)
-	# [[w:c:help:help_talk]] (or if merged, then '''w:c:central:help_talk''') pages ought to be on the watch list for relevant Wikia staff so that user's clarifying questions, support requests and contributions made there ought to be treated with the same level of diligence as requests initiated via '''Special:Contact'''
-	#* see also [[#Alternatives to merging w:c::help with w:c:central]]
-	# Wikia's policy for user contributions to '''w:c:help:help''' (e.g. via '''w:c:help:draft''') pages needs to be developed and published at [[w:c:help:project:policy]]
-	# [[w:c:central:forum]] posts ought to be subject to {{t\|delete}} use by users and Wikia staff charged with purging only if and when appropriate
-	#* see also [[#SMW is a your friend]]
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-
-	;Body of knowledge principles:
-	<blockquote>
-	I believe this means each of us helping others while we help our self.
-	In other words even though an individual's primary/immediate goal is to find a solution to some problem (s)he faces that goal should be achieved while also contributing to the community's search-able '''body of knowledge'''.
-	</blockquote>
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-	# I am <u>extremely satisfied</u> when a search leads me to a solution. (whether directly or indirectly is not so important)
-	#* This is evidence of a '''proactive''' community. ''i.e. lots of users contributing to the "body of knowledge"''
-	# I am <u>satisfied</u> when a public request for help (forum/talk page/mailing list/IRC etc.) leads to various advice that ultimately leads to a solution.
-	#* This is evidence of an '''interdependent''' community. ''i.e. responsive, cooperative, synergistic, empowered''
-	# I am <u>only moderately satisfied</u> when that request must be taken into a 1:1 email dialog with a central support group.
-	#* This is evidence of a '''dependent''' community. ''i.e disenfranchised, unweaned, not empowered, not yet able to help one another''
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-	Do not misunderstand this as minimizing the value of a central support group ... ''au contraire'' ... that central team become the "sowers" of knowledge charged with turning 1:1 assistance into a re-usable contribution to the '''body of knowledge'''. Of course privacy must be respected for some support requests but the end goal should be that fewer and fewer support requests are even necessary because each Wikia user has been given the tools (empowered) to help them self.
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-	=== Permit 1on1 support dialog to be made public ===
-	A legitimate (indeed encouraged) response from Wikia central support to any 1:1 support request should be a link to the public forum post and/or help page that has previously answered the same generic problem. If there is no such page then either:
-	* Wikia support '''ought to ask''' the user who initiated the request
-	* the user who initiated the request '''ought to ask''' Wikia support
-	if the other party has any objection to the Q&A dialog being made publicly search-able at '''w:c:central'''.
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-	So long as there is mutual agreement then this should be made to happen.
-
-	=== Alternatives to merging w:c::help with w:c:central ===
-	There were probably good reasons for these two being kept separate. That's cool.
-	In lieu of a merge suppose that '''w:c:<domain>:help_talk:Pagename''' always redirects the user to '''w:c:help:help_talk:Pagename'''.
-	I don't know how many users mistakenly edit '''w:c:<domain>:help_talk:Pagename''' to ask their clarifying questions but I am sure there are some who do overlook the instructions to the contrary and do just that. This should be made technically impossible via an appropriate redirect.
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-	=== Blue box pages and w:c:central:Special:Search can coexist ===
-	I don't see why these two should be considered mutually exclusive. If wiki founders/adopters are empowered to place there wiki at the (one) most suitable blue box page then those pages can become a powerful tool that might lead to reduced duplication of effort.
-	* I can understand why it has become untenable for a Wikia staff member to keep those pages current and that is why I am advocating empowering the community of founders/adopters (a.k.a. bureaucrats) to perform this task.
-
-	* Maybe a necessary incentive is that ''your wiki community'' does not get targeted by the Wikia-wide search unless you have
-	*# arranged a suitable home for it on one of the blue box pages at w:c:central
-	*# created a [[Wikia:Wikia tour/List of wikis in this tour\|Guided tour]] for your wiki (see [[#Reinvigorate the Wikia tour concept]] below)
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-	My personal preference may be for the search method but I am sure there are users who prefer the less surgical precision approach that is browsing or meandering through broader categories and that is really what these blue box pages represent.
-
-	Also consider the number of hits returned for any given Wikia-wide search ... it's huge! So why not have a process in the background count the number of hits at each community and then provide a list of links to the blue box pages where the top 10 or 20 most "relevant" wikis reside at w:c:central? In this way the browse-oriented user can visit the blue box page and see that wiki alongside it's "siblings". Those siblings might make a up a wiki family of languages for the same subject or migh represent a duplication of effort or perhaps varying perspectives on the same subject.
-
-	Now if a Wikia staff member really wanted to get serious about this then they would bite the SMW (Semantic MediaWiki) bullet and figure out how to allow the users who found/adopt a wiki to annotate that wiki with semantic data such that these 50,000 or whatever pages become Concept pages (which is really just a form of dynamic category). With semantic annotations on 50,000 or however many wiki communities there are the focus at w:c:central can be on a form based semantic query page that allows users to view a gazillion different dynamic categories of wiki community. At that point you can say farewell to the 50,000 pages because the same or better data is now query-enabled via a user-friendly GUI to a semantic inline query.
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-	Empowering wiki founders and wiki adopters to annotate each wiki and thereby cause that wiki to show up at w:c:central at an appropriate blue box page (or Concept: page) ought to be explored. I suspect this could very nicely be be coupled with the Wikia tour concept (see below).
-
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-	=== Reinvigorate the Wikia tour concept ===
-	I was surprised to discover how '''[[Wikia:Wikia tour/List of wikis in this tour\|few communities]]''' have taken advantage of this useful technique for providing an overview of a community wiki. I was not even aware of the feature's existence for at least 15 months after first adopting a Wikia community.
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-	What I imagine is that in addition to the list at the above link, a link to the guided tour for each wiki should be accessible from the blue box page (or concept list).
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-	In fact to encourage these tours to be comprehensive and well designed maybe any w:c:central:Special:Search hits to the pages transcluded into a '''w:c:<domain>:Project:Wikia tour''' should be given "Featured link" status much like Google search results have featured/sponsored search results fro premium subscribers.
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-	=== SMW is a your friend ===
-	May be I am an SMV evangelist but there can be no denying that the usefulness of the forums (or blogs or whatever) would be ''dramatically enhanced'' if individual users were empowered to use semantic annotations within forum posts, help_talk pages and maybe even blogs - especially if those continue to be used for Wikia announccements.
-	* I will be the first to admit that this is not a simple subject. ''Therefore an interactive dialog is really the best way to proceed.'' Sufficient to say that annotating is a little bit like "categorizing" but without the need to create a ''gazillion'' static categories in the process.
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-	A Semantic Forms feature known as partial forms would lend itself beautifully to providing a user-friendly UI to this annotation/categorizing/tagging process. This would ensure that already existing labels (so called properties) get reused. This avoids the age-old problem of typos and/or redundant labeling.
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-	If you have even the slightest inkling as to what the semantic web has to offer in our future then you'll certainly want Wikia to be on the bleeding edge of that movement.

Forum:The future of Central

2009-12-09T20:23:33Z

suggestion

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	Also, the Community Portal should be updated; this page is useful for new users. It should be a base-directory to all help pages and wikia-pages. A brand new, clear lay-out should do the trick. Users should (feel) invited to join, and build up a large community at central. <span style="color:#3CB371;">'''''[[User:Tedjuh10\|Mark]]''''' <sup>([[User talk:Tedjuh10\|Talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Tedjuh10\|Contribs]])</sup></span> 18:07, December 9, 2009 (UTC)		Also, the Community Portal should be updated; this page is useful for new users. It should be a base-directory to all help pages and wikia-pages. A brand new, clear lay-out should do the trick. Users should (feel) invited to join, and build up a large community at central. <span style="color:#3CB371;">'''''[[User:Tedjuh10\|Mark]]''''' <sup>([[User talk:Tedjuh10\|Talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Tedjuh10\|Contribs]])</sup></span> 18:07, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== najevi's vision for Central ==
		+	<blockquote>
		+	(transcluded from [[User_blog:Najevi/A_vision_for_w:c:central]])
		+	</blockquote>
		+	{{User_blog:Najevi/A_vision_for_w:c:central}}
		+	<br/>-- najevi 20:23, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

User blog:Najevi/A vision for w:c:central

2009-12-09T20:19:57Z

initial draft

New page

{{tocright}}
The new [[w:c:central:Special:Search|Wikia-wide search]] is absolutely awesome. ''Many thanks!''
*There's a good chance I haven't fully explored it's capabilities yet and therefore some of these suggestions may already be enabled thanks to this new feature.''

My personal bias is to use '''w:c:central''' as a '''body of knowledge''' however I can also appreciate that it has appeal for some users as a sort of cyber-supermarket - i.e. where one can browse up and down the aisles to get a feel for the variety of communities that have been created at Wikia.

<blockquote>
==== Assumptions ====
* central = '''[[w:c:central]]'''
* blue box pages = pages like [[Sailing]], [[Recipes]], [[Code]], etc.
* tidy up = staff and/or users liberally using {{t|delete}} and then waiting maybe 15-30 days (for any discussion/objection) before pages are actually deleted
* Wikia-wide search = '''[[w:c:central:Special:Search]]'''
* Wiki-wide search = '''w:c:<domain>:Special:Search'''
</blockquote>

<div style="background-color:cornsilk;padding:1em;margin:0 3em;border:1px solid goldenrod">
=== Key ideas (in no particular order) ===
# '''w:c:central''' and [[w:c:help]] could safely merge and become the one wiki that represents the global '''body of knowledge'''
#* see also [[#Alternatives to merging w:c::help with w:c:central]]
# '''[[Special:Contact]]''' (''i.e. highly responsive email based 1:1 support'') needs a counterpart that is wiki page based but is just as highly responsive
# '''Special:Contact''' support Q&A dialog that may benefit other users ought to be tagged as such and put within reach of '''w:c:central:Special:Search'''
#* see also [[#Permit 1on1 support dialog to be made public]]
# blue box pages - why not empower users who create (or have created) a wiki to add a blue box at an appropriate page for them self
#* see also [[#Blue box pages and w:c:central:Special:Search can coexist]]
# w:c:central pages ought to serve as a repository for WikiPage widget definitions (a.k.a. Source pages) that can be used from any Wikia community
#* see also [[User:Najevi/Contact_Wikia#WikiPage_widget_source_page_parameter_DOES_NOT_recognize_an_interwiki_link]]
# gadgets defined at any Wikia community ought to be visible at [[w:c:central:Special:Gadgets]] (''or similar repository'') i.e. source pages remain at whatever Wikia community but a documentation page that demonstrates/illustrates that gadget in action ought to be browse-able/search-able at w:c:central
# The comment blocks (''but probably not the actual code'') of user developed JavaScript and CSS from any community ought to be within reach of a '''w:c:central:Special:Search'''
# [[w:c:central:user_blog]] pages ought to be able to be deleted by the user who creates the blog (i.e. no sysop assistance required)
# [[w:c:help:help_talk]] (or if merged, then '''w:c:central:help_talk''') pages ought to be on the watch list for relevant Wikia staff so that user's clarifying questions, support requests and contributions made there ought to be treated with the same level of diligence as requests initiated via '''Special:Contact'''
#* see also [[#Alternatives to merging w:c::help with w:c:central]]
# Wikia's policy for user contributions to '''w:c:help:help''' (e.g. via '''w:c:help:draft''') pages needs to be developed and published at [[w:c:help:project:policy]]
# [[w:c:central:forum]] posts ought to be subject to the use of {{t|delete}} by regular users and then Wikia staff charged with purging only if and when appropriate
#* see also [[#SMW is a your friend]]
</div>

<blockquote>
==== Body of knowledge principles ====
<blockquote>
I believe this means each of us helping others while we help our self.
In other words even though an individual's primary/immediate goal is to find a solution to some problem (s)he faces that goal should be achieved while also contributing to the community's search-able '''body of knowledge'''.
</blockquote>

# I am extremely satisfied when a search leads me to a solution. (whether directly or indirectly is not so important)
#* This is evidence of a '''proactive''' community. ''i.e. lots of users contributing to the "body of knowledge"''
# I am satisfied when a public request for help (forum/talk page/mailing list/IRC etc.) leads to various advice that ultimately leads to a solution.
#* This is evidence of an '''interdependent''' community. ''i.e. responsive, cooperative, synergistic, empowered''
# I am only moderately satisfied when that request must be taken into a 1:1 email dialog with a central support group.
#* This is evidence of a '''dependent''' community. ''i.e disenfranchised, unweaned, not empowered, not yet able to help one another''

Do not misunderstand this as minimizing the value of a central support group ... ''au contraire'' ... that central team become the "sowers" of knowledge charged with turning 1:1 assistance into a re-usable contribution to the '''body of knowledge'''. Of course privacy must be respected for some support requests but the end goal should be that fewer and fewer support requests are even necessary because each Wikia user has been given the tools (empowered) to help them self.
</blockquote>

=== Permit 1on1 support dialog to be made public ===
A legitimate (indeed encouraged) response from Wikia central support to any 1:1 support request should be a link to the public forum post and/or help page that has previously answered the same generic problem. If there is no such page then either:
* Wikia support '''ought to ask''' the user who initiated the request
* the user who initiated the request '''ought to ask''' Wikia support
if the other party has any objection to the Q&A dialog being made publicly search-able at '''w:c:central'''.

So long as there is mutual agreement then this should be made to happen.

=== Alternatives to merging w:c::help with w:c:central ===
There were probably good reasons for these two being kept separate. That's cool.
In lieu of a merge suppose that '''w:c:<domain>:help_talk:Pagename''' always redirects the user to '''w:c:help:help_talk:Pagename'''.
I don't know how many users mistakenly edit '''w:c:<domain>:help_talk:Pagename''' to ask their clarifying questions but I am sure there are some who do overlook the instructions to the contrary and do just that. This should be made technically impossible via an appropriate redirect.

=== Blue box pages and w:c:central:Special:Search can coexist ===
I don't see why these two should be considered mutually exclusive. If wiki founders/adopters are empowered to place there wiki at the (one) most suitable blue box page then those pages can become a powerful tool that might lead to reduced duplication of effort.
* I can understand why it has become untenable for a Wikia staff member to keep those pages current and that is why I am advocating empowering the community of founders/adopters (a.k.a. bureaucrats) to perform this task.

* Maybe a necessary incentive is that ''your wiki community'' does not get targeted by the Wikia-wide search unless you have
*# arranged a suitable home for it on one of the blue box pages at w:c:central
*# created a [[Wikia:Wikia tour/List of wikis in this tour|Guided tour]] for your wiki (see [[#Reinvigorate the Wikia tour concept]] below)

My personal preference may be for the search method but I am sure there are users who prefer the less surgical precision approach that is browsing or meandering through broader categories and that is really what these blue box pages represent.

Also consider the number of hits returned for any given Wikia-wide search ... it's huge! So why not have a process in the background count the number of hits at each community and then provide a list of links to the blue box pages where the top 10 or 20 most "relevant" wikis reside at w:c:central? In this way the browse-oriented user can visit the blue box page and see that wiki alongside it's "siblings". Those siblings might make a up a wiki family of languages for the same subject or migh represent a duplication of effort or perhaps varying perspectives on the same subject.

Now if a Wikia staff member really wanted to get serious about this then they would bite the SMW (Semantic MediaWiki) bullet and figure out how to allow the users who found/adopt a wiki to annotate that wiki with semantic data such that these 50,000 or whatever pages become Concept pages (which is really just a form of dynamic category). With semantic annotations on 50,000 or however many wiki communities there are the focus at w:c:central can be on a form based semantic query page that allows users to view a gazillion different dynamic categories of wiki community. At that point you can say farewell to the 50,000 pages because the same or better data is now query-enabled via a user-friendly GUI to a semantic inline query.

Empowering wiki founders and wiki adopters to annotate each wiki and thereby cause that wiki to show up at w:c:central at an appropriate blue box page (or Concept: page) ought to be explored. I suspect this could very nicely be be coupled with the Wikia tour concept (see below).

=== Reinvigorate the Wikia tour concept ===
I was surprised to discover how '''[[Wikia:Wikia tour/List of wikis in this tour|few communities]]''' have taken advantage of this useful technique for providing an overview of a community wiki. I was not even aware of the feature's existence for at least 15 months after first adopting a Wikia community.

What I imagine is that in addition to the list at the above link, a link to the guided tour for each wiki should be accessible from the blue box page (or concept list).

In fact to encourage these tours to be comprehensive and well designed maybe any w:c:central:Special:Search hits to the pages transcluded into a '''w:c:<domain>:Project:Wikia tour''' should be given "Featured link" status much like Google search results have featured/sponsored search results fro premium subscribers.

=== SMW is a your friend ===
Perhaps I am an SMV evangelist but there can be no denying that the usefulness of the forums (or blogs or whatever) would be ''dramatically enhanced'' if individual users were empowered to use semantic annotations within forum posts, help_talk pages and maybe even blogs - especially if those continue to be used for Wikia announcements.
* I will be the first to admit that this is not a simple subject. ''Therefore an interactive dialog is really the best way to proceed.'' Sufficient to say that annotating is a little bit like "categorizing" but without the need to create a ''gazillion'' static categories in the process.

# A Semantic Forms feature known as partial forms would lend itself beautifully to providing a user-friendly UI to this annotation/categorizing/tagging process. This would ensure that already existing labels (so called properties) get reused. This avoids the age-old problem of typos and/or redundant labeling.
# The 5-star voting system for wiki articles in general (but forum posts and help pages specifically) ought to be be reviewed alongside the assessment of how SMW can help w:c:central to become a more efficient body of knowledge. See also [[User blog:Najevi/A way to measure the popularity of the "subject" of an article]]

If you have even the slightest inkling as to what the semantic web has to offer in our future then you'll certainly want Wikia to be on the bleeding edge of that movement.

=== Summary ===

A dozen or so ideas were presented for ways to make w:c:central serve as '''both''' a highly-search/query-enabled body of knowledge as well as a warm and friendly browsers paradise for meandering the communities created at Wikia. There is no need for an ''either-or'' relationship between the two. The community of users is mixed and so should the style of presenting the information be mixed so as to suit those different styles of "research".

Wikia ought to be positioning itself as a leader in the semantic web. One way of doing that is to globally support the Semantic MediaWiki bundle of extensions and to
advocate their use in ways that extend or complement the existing search facility.

A decreasing volume (''normalized to the population of course'') of '''Special:Contact''' usage should be one of the metrics of a success.

[[Category:Blog posts]]

User blog comment:Toughpigs/WikiStickies - new feature launching on My Home/Tedjuh10-20091209201917

2009-12-09T20:19:49Z

New page

@Gifh; It'll have to be translated into Italian; [[Wikia:International/WikiStickies]]

User:Crazysnailboy

2009-12-09T20:17:19Z

New user account

New page

User blog comment:Toughpigs/WikiStickies - new feature launching on My Home/Gifh-20091209201642

2009-12-09T20:16:42Z

New page: It looks very useful and nice!! Two little question: How can I activate it in my italian wiki? And where can I translate related text?

New page

It looks very useful and nice!! Two little question: How can I activate it in my italian wiki? And where can I translate related text?

User:Zamonblue222

2009-12-09T20:15:56Z

Nvm; thought it were.Undo revision 443871 by Tedjuh10 (talk)

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-	[[Category:Basketball]]
-	[[Category:Football]]

User blog comment:Toughpigs/WikiStickies - new feature launching on My Home/Bethel23-20091209200909

2009-12-09T20:09:09Z

New page: I forgot to mention that it would also be nice if it took articles from Category:Stubs

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I forgot to mention that it would also be nice if it took articles from Category:Stubs

User:Zamonblue222

2009-12-09T20:06:51Z

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	[[Category:Ed Edd and Eddy]]		[[Category:Ed Edd and Eddy]]
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User blog comment:Toughpigs/WikiStickies - new feature launching on My Home/Bethel23-20091209200127

2009-12-09T20:01:27Z

New page: Great idea! My suggestion would to be to make them customizable, so admins can change the colours - for instance, I would like to make them green with white text, to fit in with the rest o…

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Great idea! My suggestion would to be to make them customizable, so admins can change the colours - for instance, I would like to make them green with white text, to fit in with the rest of "my" wiki ([[w:c:childrensbooks|Children's Books Wiki]]).

User blog comment:Kirkburn/Rich text editor upgrade news/Bethel23-20091209195714

2009-12-09T19:57:15Z

New page: It's good to hear that the editor will be available for Chrome (the one I use), and other browsers apart from Internet Explorer.

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It's good to hear that the editor will be available for Chrome (the one I use), and other browsers apart from Internet Explorer.

Wikia:Hiring/French Intern

2009-12-09T19:54:42Z

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	Explore our French Wikia sites at [[w:c:fr\|fr.wikia.com]].		Explore our French Wikia sites at [[w:c:fr\|fr.wikia.com]].
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		+	[[Category:Hiring]]

User blog comment:Kirkburn/Beta test the new rich text editor/Zapwire-20091209194713

2009-12-09T19:47:13Z

New page: Kirkburn, try typing in <nowiki>{{Foo}}</nowiki> first, then use Foo from the list.

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Kirkburn, try typing in <nowiki>{{Foo}}</nowiki> first, then use Foo from the list.