Forum:December 2nd IRC meeting transcript

Wikia - creating communities

The following is a semi-sanitized version of the IRC chat transcript. All times listed are based in PDT (California etc).

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• [13:02:44] <PanSola> Let's do the usual round of introductions
• [13:02:54] * PanSola is from GuildWiki, and happens to be an admin there
• [13:03:00] * Joins: Thedjatclubrock
• [13:03:15] <PanSola> hi Thedjatclubrock
• [13:03:18] * Sgt_Johnson is from AceWiki, and happens to be a sysop/ b-crat
• [13:03:19] <Sgt_Johnson> hi
• [13:03:20] <PanSola> we are doing introductions right now
• [13:03:28] * Sgt_Johnson also edits halopedia
• [13:03:30] <Thedjatclubrock> BRB
• [13:03:32] * Parts: Thedjatclubrock
• [13:03:36] <Sgt_Johnson> one of the top 30 contributors
• [13:04:26] * Joins: Tesfan
• [13:04:45] <PanSola> hi Tesfan, intro time right now (-:
• [13:04:46] * GPT is one of the top 1 contributors on Pfhorpedia ^_^
• [13:04:51] <Sgt_Johnson> xD
• [13:05:05] <Tesfan> "top 1" = "only" XD
• [13:05:12] <GPT> wrong
• [13:05:20] * Sgt_Johnson is a contributor to Pfhorpedia
• [13:05:26] <Tesfan> cool
• [13:06:00] <uberfuzzy> me=an admin/template destroyer @ eq2.wikia.com
• [13:06:08] <PanSola> When doing intro, please try to put all the wikisy ou edit in the same line
• [13:06:15] <PanSola> d-:
• [13:06:27] <Tesfan> lol
• [13:06:30] * PanSola picks a random person who hasn't introduced
• [13:06:33] <Sgt_Johnson> I will
• [13:06:35] <PanSola> Quick you there?
• [13:06:42] * Kodia is the senior admin for EQ2.wikia.com.
• [13:07:22] * PanSola pokes Kirkburn
• [13:07:39] <Sgt_Johnson> http://wikistats.wikia.com/wikistats/EN/TablesWikiaACECOMBAT.htm - mah stats
• [13:08:06] <Manticore> not yours >_>
• [13:08:06] * PanSola waves at Jedimca0
• [13:08:13] * Manticore is an admin at lots of places
• [13:08:19] * Jedimca0 waves back
• [13:08:20] <Manticore> </introduction?
• [13:08:22] <Manticore> gah
• [13:08:23] <Sgt_Johnson> I know manti
• [13:08:25] * Tesfan is an admin @ RuneScapeWiki
• [13:08:27] <Manticore> hey Jedimca0 :)
• [13:08:31] <Jedimca0> Hello
• [13:08:34] <Manticore> thanks for the block today
• [13:08:40] <Jedimca0> no problem
• [13:08:58] <PanSola> hi Jedimca0, introduce yourself (-:
• [13:09:44] <Jedimca0> I'm an admin at Darthipedia and a user at Wookieepedia
• [13:10:26] <Quick> yup
• [13:11:32] * Kodia whispers that she's also been editing the Christmas Specials wiki a few times.
• [13:11:55] <PanSola> hi quick, introduce yoruself please (-:
• [13:13:21] <PanSola> hmm
• [13:13:26] <PanSola> ok, anyways
• [13:13:37] <PanSola> item #1: Featured gaming wiki
• [13:13:43] <PanSola> Age of Conan is the current feature
• [13:13:50] <PanSola> next week it will be replaced
• [13:14:26] <PanSola> so, if your previous vote was for the AoC wiki, you can move your vote to support something else
• [13:14:36] <PanSola> well,e veryone can move their votes anytime
• [13:14:43] <PanSola> and if you h aven't, go vote adn nominate!
• [13:14:55] * Sgt_Johnson nominates Ace Wiki
• [13:15:21] <PanSola> I want to see more usage of the past tense, "nominated"
• [13:15:22] <PanSola> d-:
• [13:15:39] <Kodia> it's good to want things
• [13:16:22] * Joins: Phil_E
• [13:16:27] <Tesfan> Hi
• [13:16:29] <Phil_E> hi
• [13:16:31] <PanSola> Hi Phil_E
• [13:16:41] <PanSola> we did introductions and are just now talking about featured gaming wiki
• [13:16:44] <Phil_E> Hi PanSola
• [13:16:46] <Phil_E> kk
• [13:16:49] <PanSola> tryingn to get ppl to nominate and vote
• [13:16:59] <PanSola> since a new one will come up next week
• [13:17:37] <PanSola> Right now Area51 (BlackSite Wiki) and Marathon (Pfhorpedia) are tied for the lead
• [13:17:45] <PanSola> but new nominations can still come up
• [13:18:07] * Joins: Blazel
• [13:18:19] * Parts: Blazel
• [13:19:35] <PanSola> next thing: Gaming-skin compatible sitedesigns
• [13:20:02] <PanSola> a bunch of stuff recently cropped up regarding the Quartzgaming theme
• [13:20:11] <PanSola> usually issues with light background color
• [13:20:31] <PanSola> Even if your site doesn't set gaming theme as default, please be aware that some users may choose it
• [13:20:49] <GPT> PanSola: see #halopedia, please
• [13:20:49] <Tesfan> I prefre the user page spread out rather then a drop down
• [13:20:52] <PanSola> so if any tables, divs etc on your wiki uses light background, please manually specify a dark font
• [13:21:37] <Sgt_Johnson> I tried to use the Gaming Skin, it doesn't work
• [13:21:42] <Manticore> PanSola: who picks higlighted wikis on gaming hub?
• [13:21:46] <Sgt_Johnson> you can't see the words on my wiki
• [13:21:50] <Manticore> Sgt_Johnson: gaming skin is fail
• [13:21:51] <Sgt_Johnson> not my
• [13:21:52] <Sgt_Johnson> Ace Wiki
• [13:21:57] * Sgt_Johnson bangs his head
• [13:22:30] <PanSola> Sgt_Johnson: hold on, will investigate
• [13:22:57] <PanSola> Manticore: Everyone can add to "New adn Notable"
• [13:23:12] <PanSola> the Most Popular is determined by stats
• [13:23:22] <PanSola> those with highest article and active user count
• [13:23:27] <Manticore> bottom left helping out area
• [13:23:29] <PanSola> featured is from voting
• [13:23:37] <PanSola> eeryone can add wikis to the helping out
• [13:23:55] <PanSola> If you see an "edit" link for a section, then you can edit it d-:
• [13:24:57] <Manticore> bah technicality
• [13:25:00] <PanSola> Sgt_Johnson: the problem with gaming theme on AceWIki is precisely becuse you have white text on light colored background
• [13:25:01] <Manticore> I see [edit] everywhere
• [13:25:07] <Sgt_Johnson> ah
• [13:25:10] <PanSola> you need to manually specify the font color and set it to black
• [13:25:16] <Sgt_Johnson> ok
• [13:25:16] <Sgt_Johnson> got it
• [13:25:32] <PanSola> Manticore: precisely
• [13:25:59] <PanSola> Manticore: be bold. The only penalty for doing something wrong is it getting reverted d-:
• [13:26:03] <Sgt_Johnson> sweet!
• [13:26:05] <PanSola> which isn't a big deal
• [13:26:09] <Sgt_Johnson> It went up in the search engine!
• [13:26:39] <Manticore> PanSola: +sysop - I see [edit] where others don't - was my point ;)
• [13:26:48] <PanSola> oh
• [13:26:52] <PanSola> I forgot
• [13:26:53] <PanSola> well
• [13:26:58] <PanSola> log out then d-:
• [13:27:01] <PanSola> wait
• [13:27:04] <Tesfan> lol
• [13:27:06] <PanSola> sysops should see the same
• [13:27:12] <PanSola> hte page is not protected
• [13:27:16] <Jack_Phoenix> PanSola: regarding your above comment to Manticore, you can also get your commit permissions removed if you're a MediaWiki dev :-P
• [13:27:49] <PanSola> The page isn't protected, so/and you shouldn't see extra edit links compared to other ppl
• [13:28:09] <Manticore> well, I wouldn't know if it was without checking :P
• [13:28:26] <PanSola> well if it were protected,you'll see a "Unprotect" tab
• [13:28:34] <PanSola> since you are sysop and all
• [13:29:11] <PanSola> another thing is
• [13:29:16] <PanSola> we want ppl to write articles for teh hub
• [13:29:28] <PanSola> right now we got a total of 4 articles (only 3 shows up on the hub)
• [13:29:41] <PanSola> target audience: users of other gaming wikis
• [13:30:03] <Tesfan> Would the artilce be like "<wiki>: About"?
• [13:30:09] <PanSola> feel free to write on any topic/subject (as long as you keep target audience in mind"
• [13:30:26] <PanSola> Tesfan: typically no
• [13:30:29] <Tesfan> Oh, on gaming.wikia
• [13:30:39] <PanSola> um, this is for the hub
• [13:30:42] <PanSola> not for gaming.wikia
• [13:30:46] <PanSola> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Gaming
• [13:31:03] <Tesfan> Ah
• [13:31:31] <Sgt_Johnson> saphire looks the best on the Ace Wiki
• [13:31:34] <PanSola> things you want to share with other users of gaming wikis. An advice, a story
• [13:31:49] <PanSola> a trick
• [13:32:32] <Manticore> PanSola: if you transclude a sysop protected template, you see [edit] on the page, that's what I was talking about - I don't know if any of them are protected :)
• [13:32:44] <PanSola> Manticore:none
• [13:32:57] <uberfuzzy> who do i talk to about something on gaming.wikia?
• [13:33:21] <PanSola> their local sysops?
• [13:33:25] <PanSola> or
• [13:33:32] <PanSola> the Wikia NY staff
• [13:33:39] <Manticore> speak to DNL uberfuzzy
• [13:33:53] <uberfuzzy> DNL?
• [13:34:12] <PanSola> he visits halopedia
• [13:34:12] <GPT> uberfuzzy: what's the problem?
• [13:34:15] <PanSola> #halopedia
• [13:34:23] <GPT> something wrong with gaming.wikia?
• [13:34:29] <uberfuzzy> "Profile Completeness"
• [13:34:40] <GPT> oh... !bAH, yeah, can't help, talk to staff. ^_^
• [13:34:45] <uberfuzzy> what is that % based on?
• [13:34:47] <Sgt_Johnson> is it ok to put a wikias featured nomination on the main page of said wikia?
• [13:35:06] <PanSola> Sgt_Johnson: elaborate, not entirely sure what you mean
• [13:35:34] <GPT> uberfuzzy: I think it's based on the number of fields you've filled out... but I'm not sure.
• [13:35:36] <Sgt_Johnson> Like, in the announcements say "______ Wiki has been nominated for featured wiki! Vote here: http://blah blah blah"
• [13:36:00] <PanSola> Sgt_Johnson: depends on the policy of the local wiki
• [13:36:04] <Sgt_Johnson> ok
• [13:36:23] <GPT> PanSola: are you ignoring me?
• [13:36:59] <PanSola> GPT: not in this channel
• [13:37:03] <PanSola> I'll deal with other stuff later
• [13:37:15] <GPT> ah, kthx
• [13:38:13] <PanSola> anyways so yeah, please help write articles for teh hub
• [13:38:18] <PanSola> we want it to feel lively
• [13:38:35] <PanSola> that way more ppl will feel comfortable writing
• [13:38:42] <Tesfan> What would an example of an article be>
• [13:38:45] <Tesfan> *?
• [13:38:58] <PanSola> Tesfan: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Gaming_user_articles
• [13:39:10] <PanSola> there are four articles for you to get an idea
• [13:39:14] <Tesfan> thx
• [13:39:19] <PanSola> you can write something totally different too
• [13:39:26] <Kirkburn> PanSola, in the middle of washing up ><
• [13:39:40] <Kirkburn> Back soon!
• [13:39:40] <PanSola> as long as you keep in mind the target audience is "users of other gaming wikis", you can write anything
• [13:39:42] <PanSola> Kirkburn!!!
• [13:39:48] <PanSola> >_<"
• [13:39:57] <PanSola> was gonna ask him to share what he has been up to lately
• [13:40:38] <PanSola> anyways, any wikis facing issues lately?
• [13:40:43] <PanSola> (except teh current site slowness)
• [13:41:05] <GPT> Pfhorpedia's falling into disrepair... but I guess that's my fault mainly. ^_^
• [13:41:46] <PanSola> disrepair means things that were working are now startingn to break?
• [13:41:53] <Sgt_Johnson> GPT: its not your fault
• [13:41:56] <PanSola> like informathing has changed but wiki doesn't keep up?
• [13:42:04] * Sgt_Johnson has other priorities
• [13:42:12] <GPT> nah... I've just stopped editing and I'm the only real editor, 'tis all I mean.
• [13:42:20] <PanSola> ah
• [13:42:22] <Kirkburn> Back
• [13:42:27] <Kirkburn> Right, hello all
• [13:42:27] <PanSola> so it's really just gone stagnant
• [13:42:44] <Kirkburn> I've been working on a couple of wikis, giving them the GamingStarter treatment
• [13:42:45] <GPT> ja
• [13:42:50] * Joins: PsiSeveredHead
• [13:42:54] <PanSola> hi PsiSeveredHead
• [13:43:07] <Sgt_Johnson> hi
• [13:43:11] <PsiSeveredHead> Hiya
• [13:43:24] <Kirkburn> Last week I created a stock Manual of Style to help wikis start and added it to the flagship wikis - however, other's can request I add it to their wiki
• [13:43:25] <Manticore> Hi PsiSeveredHead
• [13:43:37] <PsiSeveredHead> Hi
• [13:44:18] <Kirkburn> This is essentially what I created - http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/BioShock_Wiki:Manual_of_Style
• [13:45:20] <PanSola> Kirkburn: is there anything in there that is gaming-specific?
• [13:45:28] * Quits: uberfuzzy
• [13:45:48] <Kirkburn> It's a modified version of the WoWWiki one, so it definately leans that way
• [13:46:37] <Kirkburn> The sample article that comes with it - http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/BioShock_Wiki:Manual_of_Style/Sample - also has gaming leanings
• [13:47:36] <PanSola> and non-english leanings o_O
• [13:48:02] <Kirkburn> Other things I've been working on can be seen on http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Moss and http://bioshock.wikia.com/index.php?title=Moss&action=edit ... the mediawiki default text is altered
• [13:48:10] <Kirkburn> PanSola, ?
• [13:48:23] <PanSola> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
• [13:48:28] <PanSola> me no understand
• [13:48:36] <Kirkburn> Lol, Google for "lorem ipsum"
• [13:48:47] <Kirkburn> It's standard filler text
• [13:48:56] <PanSola> oh
• [13:49:05] <PanSola> ~_~"
• [13:49:10] <Kirkburn> It's an odd version of Latin
• [13:49:17] <PanSola> why not "a happy fox jump over the fense" or something
• [13:49:26] <Kirkburn> My plan is to add this and more stuff to gaming wikis as I go around them
• [13:49:52] <Kirkburn> Atm I'm halfway through adding this gaming irc link to wiki sidebars
• [13:50:39] <Kirkburn> One thing I've noticed about wikis as I go around them is that categorising isn't emphasised enough - articles without categories may never be found
• [13:50:49] <PanSola> hmm
• [13:51:00] <PanSola> I usually find articles via search or via internal linking
• [13:51:07] <PanSola> Ihardly ever uses categories to navigate
• [13:51:19] <Kirkburn> The mediawiki bits I edited give some help on that - http://bioshock.wikia.com/index.php?title=Moss&action=edit - see above and below the editbox
• [13:51:46] <Kirkburn> This is more for maintaining the wiki - if internal links disappear through editing, the articles cannot be found
• [13:51:55] * Joins: uberfuzzy
• [13:52:10] <Kodia> It's not that odd. :)
• [13:52:10] <PanSola> I would philosophically argue that, an uncategorized article that is heavily linked to is easier to be found than a categorized article nobody links to
• [13:52:53] <Kirkburn> Of course, but categories is a single fire-and-forget method of making an article discoverable
• [13:53:08] <Kirkburn> Linking relies on other articles being well made
• [13:53:35] <Kirkburn> I think it's often ignored because new editors don't know about it
• [13:54:14] <Kirkburn> I'm not suggesting that categories are how to navigate wikis, just that for the maintainers of the wikis, if you don't categorise, it's going to cause more trouble
• [13:54:35] <PanSola> GPT: do you have casual editors at Phforpedia?
• [13:54:37] <Jack_Phoenix> hey hey everyone
• [13:54:44] <Tesfan> hi hi
• [13:54:57] <GPT> PanSola: three other people have edited once or twice.
• [13:55:24] <PanSola> and do you think things like what Kirkburn showed above might help? Or is the situation with your wiki more like wiki veterans not having enough time?
• [13:55:33] * GPT looks
• [13:56:13] <GPT> the situation with it is that it's new and there's a "competitor" on some other site, and everyone trusts that wiki because it's been around longer
• [13:56:20] <PanSola> ah
• [13:56:59] <PanSola> why did you start the competation then? Is the other wiki also on MW?
• [13:57:30] <PanSola> Sgt_Johnson: did you take a look at kirkburn's work?
• [13:57:34] <GPT> I didn't know the other site was there, so I started one at Wikia... and yes, the other one's MW
• [13:57:46] <Sgt_Johnson> Pansola: I was reverting vandalism at my wiki
• [13:57:52] <PanSola> ouch
• [13:57:55] <Sgt_Johnson> ah
• [13:58:15] * Quits: Tesfan
• [13:58:26] <PsiSeveredHead> I think Kirkburn's example is very helpful. However, wiki veterans often don't have much time as well.
• [13:58:32] <PanSola> I think haivng reminders and pointers to the manul of style easily spotted near the edit box can help new ppl
• [13:59:19] <Kirkburn> Btw, BioShock is essentially "the" Gaming wiki style, much of the special stuff on there like the community portal and project:templates pages is templated and easily added to other wikis
• [13:59:32] <Sgt_Johnson> http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/AceWiki:Style_guide - like this?
• [14:00:21] <Kirkburn> Aye, though that seems to be copied directly from Wikipedia
• [14:00:30] <Sgt_Johnson> ?
• [14:00:30] <PanSola> Kirkburn: I would suggest creating an overview article that shows the category tree structure
• [14:00:56] <PanSola> if I am creating an article on, say, WoW Wiki, and if I want to find out what category to put my article in by browsing Special:Categories on WoWWiki
• [14:01:07] <PanSola> I might decide to just skip it and let otherppl clean up my mess
• [14:01:25] <Sgt_Johnson> it was moved to ace wiki during the merger
• [14:01:37] <PanSola> so the pre-merged version was copied from WP
• [14:01:43] <Kirkburn> Yeah, PanSola, I might add something about that
• [14:01:54] <Sgt_Johnson> I blocked that IP
• [14:02:02] <Kirkburn> At least have some explanation or gameplan on how to categorise
• [14:02:26] <PanSola> maybe even linking to the root ofthe category tree
• [14:02:55] <PanSola> that would probalby be more helpful than the list of all categories in alphabetical order
• [14:03:14] <PanSola> if I start from the root I would more likely find the category I want to put my article in
• [14:03:22] <Kirkburn> Amazingly, WoWWiki doesn't have a true root category :/ (annoyingly)
• [14:03:28] <PanSola> lol
• [14:03:36] <Kirkburn> Indeed, I think Browse is the default on Wikia
• [14:03:44] <PanSola> just slap on every uncategorized browse
• [14:03:56] <PanSola> I think Brows is a common practice on wikia, but not default
• [14:04:48] <PanSola> anyways, any thing else anyone want to discuss/share?
• [14:05:03] <GPT> Kodia wants to share food.
• [14:05:08] <Kodia> lol
• [14:05:12] <PanSola> Remember to chech the gaming hub for meeting times (next week is one hr earler thanthis week)
• [14:05:14] <Sgt_Johnson> why is it a sin to protect every page?!
• [14:05:17] <PanSola> Nominate and vote for featured
• [14:05:25] <PanSola> Sgt_Johnson: because then you won't have a wiki
• [14:05:29] <GPT> Sgt_Johnson: no one can edit if every page is uneditable...
• [14:05:30] <PanSola> write articles
• [14:05:30] <Sgt_Johnson> lol
• [14:05:31] <Kodia> it defeats the purpose of every thing wikis stand for
• [14:05:48] * Sgt_Johnson just wants to protect everything from vandals
• [14:05:56] <PanSola> Kodia: technically just "most things" wikis stand for
• [14:06:09] * Parts: Kodia
• [14:06:30] * Joins: Kodia
• [14:06:35] <PanSola> wb
• [14:06:41] <Kodia> wrong button
• [14:06:47] <Sgt_Johnson> I have to protect this page
• [14:06:50] * Kodia blushes
• [14:07:01] <Sgt_Johnson> where are those lasagna rolls?
• [14:07:09] <Kodia> on the stove. you're not here yet
• [14:07:33] <Kirkburn> Btw, as I'm adding more links to this channel around Wikia Gaming, the channel may get a bit busier
• [14:07:42] <PanSola> GPT: have you considered closing yoru phforpedia and merge into the other wiki? Or are there philosophical difference between yoru two sites?
• [14:07:49] <Kirkburn> If you see people arrive from the Wikia portal, say hello :P
• [14:07:58] <GPT> PanSola: "closing" isn't allowed on Wikia...
• [14:08:14] <PanSola> GPT: Put a big notice on the main page: "We have merged"
• [14:08:24] <GPT> no thanks...
• [14:08:38] <GPT> I don't really like their license, and they're way too unorganized IMO.
• [14:08:42] <PsiSeveredHead> Are you talking about merging multiple wikias?
• [14:08:45] <PanSola> what's their license?
• [14:08:56] <GPT> PsiSeveredHead: Wikia w/ non-Wikia
• [14:08:57] <Sgt_Johnson> what are expiry times for protection?
• [14:09:07] <PanSola> Sgt_Johnson: local rules
• [14:09:10] <Sgt_Johnson> got it
• [14:09:14] <GPT> PanSola: basically says "this stuff is ours, not yours. you can't use it. it's copyrighted, stealing r not allowed. bai."
• [14:09:26] <PanSola> GPT: then yeah, philosophical difference
• [14:09:35] <GPT> ja
• [14:09:50] <PanSola> you should try to sell the Phforpedia as the OPEN resource for marathon
• [14:09:56] <PanSola> that belongs to the community
• [14:10:13] <PanSola> and focus on getting *one* single aspect better than your competition
• [14:10:16] <GPT> ah... kelwl.
• [14:10:19] <GPT> *kewl
• [14:10:24] <PanSola> if you can get *one* thing better
• [14:10:29] <PanSola> then you got your foot in
• [14:10:42] <GPT> I can get lots of things better, if I have the time...
• [14:10:46] <PanSola> ppl will start to consider using both for different purposes
• [14:10:54] <PanSola> then they will start help improving yours
• [14:11:06] <GPT> ja
• [14:11:09] <PanSola> so, focus on one single thing first
• [14:11:12] <PanSola> onen step at a time
• [14:11:20] <GPT> k
• [14:11:26] <PanSola> if you try to improve everything at once, with limited time, you'll end up being inferior at everything
• [14:11:44] <PanSola> 1. Improve a single aspect to become superior
• [14:12:05] <PanSola> 2. Attract users to use Phforpedia for that single purpose (while still using competitior for others)
• [14:12:16] <PanSola> 3. Attract them to help other aspects
• [14:12:18] <PanSola> 4. ???
• [14:12:18] * Joins: DuTempete
• [14:12:26] <PanSola> 5. Profit!
• [14:12:30] <Jack_Phoenix> haha :D
• [14:12:33] * DuTempete growls at Kirkburn
• [14:12:34] <Jack_Phoenix> I knew that one ;-)
• [14:12:44] <GPT> heh
• [14:12:47] <GPT> there isn't a step four?
• [14:12:55] <Kirkburn> Y'know, I need a big notice to remind myself of these meetings
• [14:12:56] <PanSola> step four is in question marks
• [14:12:57] <DuTempete> So, I hear I missed an interesting coversation about gaming wikis?
• [14:13:13] <Kirkburn> Methinks I should make a page on WoWWiki about it, since I look at it enough :O
• [14:13:16] <PanSola> DuTempete: unless you usually go by a different nick, you've missed several
• [14:13:24] <Kirkburn> haha
• [14:13:26] <DuTempete> heh, probably a good idea, Kirkburn
• [14:13:35] <DuTempete> PanSola, cute, but I've been on hiatus for a while.
• [14:13:39] <PanSola> and this oen is about wraping up
• [14:13:57] <Kirkburn> ... presents?
• [14:13:58] <PanSola> I try to keep it around 1 hr
• [14:13:59] <DuTempete> Just started logging in again as my term wraps up
• [14:14:15] <DuTempete> ah, well
• [14:14:16] <PanSola> anyways, next meeting time can be found on the Gaming hub
• [14:14:23] <PanSola> www.wikia.com/wiki/Gaming
• [14:14:26] <DuTempete> Next time, give Kirkburn a kick in the pants, and maybe he'll remind me.
• [14:14:29] * Kirkburn changes topic to 'Welcome to #wikia-gaming | http://gaming.wikia.com/ | Vote on featured gaming Wikia - http://wikia.com/wiki/Featured_gaming_Wikia | Next chat on 9 December, 8pm (GMT)'
• [14:14:31] * Phil_E is now known as Phil_E|Away
• [14:14:35] <Kirkburn> ^ hope that's right?
• [14:14:38] <DuTempete> or, well, tell me, since I never really new in the ifrst place :P
• [14:14:44] <Kirkburn> lol
• [14:14:49] <DuTempete> *knew
• [14:14:58] <PanSola> anyways, hang around here as much as you can
• [14:15:10] <PanSola> new founders occasionally hop on to see what this "IRC" thing is about
• [14:15:10] <DuTempete> Yeah, I keep forgetting to add this channel to my autojoin
• [14:15:27] <PanSola> when we don't catch them within 60 secs they often leave and never return )-:

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-PanSola 18:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)